Autosomal DNA Tests for Parents?

Question_MarkI have already taken an autosomal DNA test.  Should I test my parent(s)?

The answer is YES!  Absolutely!

Because of the random way in which autosomal DNA is inherited, each child only receives a portion of each parent’s DNA.  The child is made up of 50% from the mother and 50% from the father but if no parents are tested, matches for that other 50% of each parents’ DNA will not be represented.  That is why it is so important to test parents first, especially if funds are limited and age or health could be a factor.

At Family Tree DNA, my mother has 290 Family Finder matches in the database as of today.  Applying the “in common with” filter and selecting my name, there are only 116 matches.  Of my mother’s 290 matches, my results only reflect 116 of them.  This means that 174 maternal matches would have never been discovered without testing my mother.  Applying the “in common with” between my mother and sister only yields 108 matches, which means my sister would have lost even more genetic data than I would have if my mother and I had not tested.  Keep in mind, those “in common with” match lists that my sister and I have are not identical.  We have each inherited different bits of autosomal DNA and will, therefore, have some matches in common and some different.

The reason that I tested my sister is because my father is deceased.  If I had a complete set of parental autosomal DNA, I might do my own autosomal DNA test for entertainment, but there would not be a significant value to help me reconstruct my genetic tree.  Since my father is not living, I cannot get the full picture, as I can with my mother.  I have to use the “in common with” matches that my sister and I have.  I have to do this backwards, by subtracting out what belongs to our mother.

In my own results on the Matching page, I apply the “not in common” filter and select my mother.  Any of the matches who match me but do not match my mother must come from my father by default.  I can then repeat that process using my sister’s results.  Merging our two results together can provide us with a list of matches that came from our father.  This is not a perfect solution, but it’s a step in the right direction.  If we had more siblings, it would be even better.

The bottom line:  My recommendation is that if both parents are living, both parents should be tested.  If at least one parent is deceased or otherwise unavailable to test, then the living parent and as many living children as possible should be tested to get a more complete snapshot.

The Results are In: My Mother’s Cousin’s DNA

Most of my maternal heritage is English and Irish.  My mother has many Family Tree DNA Family Finder matches for her autosomal DNA but I cannot tell whether they came from her mother’s side or her father’s side.  In order to try to sort this out, I need to test as many known cousins as possible.

My mother has a first cousin who is the child of her father’s sister.  By testing K, as I will refer to her, I can find matches in common, which is often referred to as triangulation.  The only known common ancestors between my mother and her cousin K are James and Helen, their common grandparents.  Therefore, any segments that match between them should be inherited from James and Helen, their common ancestors.

Mom's Cousin's Chromosome Browser Orange = Mom Blue = Mom's brother

Mom’s Cousin’s FTDNA Chromosome Browser
Orange = Mom
Blue = Mom’s brother

Family Tree DNA offers a tool called a chromosome browser, which can be used to examine common segments of autosomal DNA.  The chart above depicts the 22 autosomes of K.  The areas that are highlighted in orange are areas that my mom and K share identically in common.  The areas in blue are the areas that my mother’s brother shares identically in common with K.  As you can see, some of the shared areas are the same and some are different.  This is because of the random way in which autosomal DNA is inherited.  My mom and uncle both received a random shuffle of autosomal DNA from each of their parents.

Any place where my mom or my uncle matches with K can be attributed to James and Helen.  If I had only tested my mom or only tested my uncle, I would have lost the information about the areas that my mom and uncle do not share in common with each other that they share with K.  This is why it’s important to test as many siblings and cousins as possible.

When my mom or uncle have other matches in the database who match in an area on a chromosome where they match K, I will now know that I should look for the common ancestor to be somewhere in my maternal grandfather’s tree.  As I test more cousins, I will be able to “sort” out matches as maternal and paternal, and hopefully into quadrants or even further, by testing second cousins and beyond.

NERGC 2013 – Friday

Wow, today seemed to go on forever but I’ll try to give a quick recap before going to bed so that I can be back at the conference hotel in less than six hours.  Exhausting but totally worth it!  I’m not used to burning the candle on both ends like this but it’s not everyday that I get to see old friends and make new ones.  Please overlook typos tonight because proof-reading is simply not going to happen!

This morning I was slated to volunteer at Registration starting at 7 A.M.  I was able to have a very nice conversation with Beth Mariotti, Director of Godfrey Memorial Library.  I am on the board of the Friends of Godfrey.  If you have not checked out Godfrey Memorial Library and the Godfrey Scholar website, you should!  Stephen Morse recently redesigned the site and it’s wonderful.

Beth Mariotti, Director of the Godfrey Library with Stephen Morse and his lovely wife, Anita

Beth Mariotti, Director of the Godfrey Library, with Stephen Morse and his lovely wife, Anita

Around 8 A.M. I received a message asking me to help with the mayor’s visit.  I was happy to be able to help by taking the photos during his visit.  I posted a few of those here earlier today.

I finished taking photos just in time to get to Colleen Fitzpatrick’s talk, “The Secrets of Abraham Lincoln’s DNA.”  This talk was filled with many interesting facts.  Of course, I like anything that involves genetic genealogy so it certainly wasn’t a hard sell for me.

Colleen Fitzpatrick, PhD

Colleen Fitzpatrick, PhD

After this talk, there was some unopposed exhibitor time.  GeneaBloggers took this opportunity to go to the designated area in the conference hall and have a meet and greet and get some blog posts published.  How fun to meet so many of our fellow bloggers, many of whom had only met previously via Facebook.  It’s nice to put a live face to the Facebook face!

GeneaBloggers Unite!

GeneaBloggers Unite!

A few of us went to lunch together and then it was straight on to the next session!

For the first afternoon session, I did the introduction for Jolene Mullen.  I requested this because Jolene’s books are so valuable to me as a Connecticut Researcher.  Her talk, “Town Meeting Records of Connecticut and Rhode Island During the American Revolution,” provided wonderful insight into life during the Revolution.  If you have ancestors living in Connecticut or Massachusetts between 1774-1783 and you have not checked for them in Jolene’s books, it is something you MUST do.  There are two volumes, each covering one half of the towns, arranged in alphabetical order by town.  I have had my copies since they came hot off the press in 2011 and they are very well-loved.

Jolene Mullen

Jolene Mullen

Connie Reik, MSL, presented “Researching Your War of 1812 Veteran in Federal Publications and Documents.”  I had the chance to go to a DNA session at this time but I’m very happy with my choice.  This is definitely a weak area of source utilization for me, so it was sorely needed.  I have ancestors that may very well show up in some of the record sets that Connie shared, so I need to reread all of my notes from this session and definitely put some time into this.

Connie Reik, Research and Instruction Librarian

Connie Reik, Research and Instruction Librarian

This evening was the time to gather with my fellow Boston University Alumni.  I was able to get a wonderful photo of some of the teaching staff.  A big thank you to all of them for their hard work and dedication to teach and also to grade all of that work!

Elissa Scalise Powell, Rob Stanhope, Michael Leclerc, and Julie Michutka

Elissa Scalise Powell, Rob Stanhope, Michael Leclerc, and Julie Michutka

Finally, it was time for the Special Interest Groups.  I hosted DNA Research.  About 35 people total showed up, with many staying the whole time.  There seemed to be a nice variety of experience, with some beginner, intermediate, and more advanced topics being discussed.  I was able to educate some people and correct a few misconceptions, which is always great.  Most importantly, I made a couple of wonderful new friends.  Many people stayed until the conference hall staff literally moved the chairs around us.  We took it to the hall until it got much too late and now I fear I will be very sleepy at ProGen breakfast in the morning but that’s ok.  It was totally worth it.  I really like my new buddies!

For those who said that I would remember the word I had forgotten as soon as we left, you were absolutely right.  HETEROPLASMY!

Family Tree DNA announces DNA Day Sale

Family Tree DNA has announced its annual DNA Day sale.  This sale will focus on the FMS full mitochondrial sequence and Family Finder autosomal DNA tests.  With the implementation of The Next Generation Sequencing (NGS) for mitochondrial DNA, costs can be reduced without sacrificing quality.  Additionally, turnaround time can be reduced from 9-10 weeks to 5-6 weeks, or possibly even shorter if a sample is already in the lab.

Sale prices are good until Monday, April 22nd at 11:59pm CDT.

Full MtDNA       Sequence…. $189
Upgrades to FMS….$129
Y-DNA37 (new and add-on)…. $119
Y-DNA67 (new and add-on)…. $199
Y-DNA37 + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $308
Y-DNA12 + FF…. $218
Y-DNA37 + FF…. $288
Y-DNA67 + FF…. $368
Family Finder…. $169
Family Finder + Full MtDNA Sequence…. $358
SuperDNA….$388 (Y-67 + FMS)
Comprehensive DNA…. $557 (Y-67 + FMS + FF)

If you’ve been considering a test, now is the time!

www.familytreedna.com

 

8th Annual Conference on Genetic Genealogy – Day 2

ISOGG FTDNA Chapter Meeting

ISOGG President Katherine Borgess

Sunday morning at the conference always starts with a meeting of the International Society of Genetic Genealogists (ISOGG) FTDNA Chapter.  ISOGG President Katherine Borges reminded everyone that ISOGG is a free support network for genetic genealogists.  Upon joining ISOGG, members receive an invitation to the ISOGG mailing list.  Katherine reminded everyone that ISOGG is self-supporting and hosts booths.  They maintain speakers list.  If you speak on Genetic Genealogy, please submit your name.

Alice Fairhurst

Alice Fairhurst is in charge of the ISOGG Y-SNP tree.  She pleaded with the audience for volunteers to help administrate the tree.  There are just a few people who struggle to keep up with everything on a voluntary basis outside of their regular jobs, which often includes engineering and IT positions.  Alice shared changes that we can expect, including migrating ISOGG to a more powerful server and utilizing an SQL database.  The tree will remain in its current style through 2012 and she is not sure if they will be able to get the new tree up in January.  It is still too early to say.

It is going to be very important to learn SNP names, as subclade names may change as new discoveries are found on the Geno project.  The new system is going to be parent / child.  She said, “The explosion in knowledge in the last two years has been tremendous.”  Many universities and students are now using the ISOGG tree and routinely send notes of thanks to the group for all they’ve done and are doing.  The ISOGG page that receives the most hits is the Index to Y-DNA SNPs.

Brian Swann

Brian Swann, the ISOGG European Coordinator for England and Wales, has a Ph.D. in Chemistry with a specialty in mitochondria.  He shared that the UK Who Do You Think You Are conference is the largest in the world, with 11,000 – 17,000 attendees.  Wow!  FTDNA has sponsored the DNA area at that conference for several years.  Typically kits sell out by Sunday and then they have to pass out order forms.  This is great for those of us with roots in the British Isles.

Recruiting individuals for projects is always a challenge and Brian gave some tips about how to approach the British.  Adverts in journals and bulletin boards sometimes work.  It may be useful to cold call.  We’re going to have to start doing it if we want to build our projects.  Get to know people and build trust and you will improve your recruitment for project participants.  Also, make sure that your home page is universal, rather than targeted to an American audience.  The Guild of One Name Studies can be a good resource to look for candidates.

Looking at surnames is important.  Brian gave some helpful tips for researching in the UK:

  • Look at surname atlases
  • Read Debbie Kennett’s new Surname Handbook about surnames and how to research origins of UK surnames
  • Use Facebook to contact people (something I’ve had great success with)
  • Use Cyndislist to find local Family History Societies in the UK
  • Find phone numbers via 192.com or the UK equivalent of whitepages.com

One startling statistic sheds some light on a growing problem that is only going to get worse.  About half the people in Britain who have children don’t marry.  This makes family history more difficult and it’s only going to continue to get worse as this becomes more and more common.

mtDNA Community – A “Copernican” Reassessment of the Human Mitochondrial DNA Tree from Its Root

Dr. Doran Behar

Dr. Doran Behar presented a paper that was published in the American Journal of Human Genetics and I will do my best to share, although much of it is over my head.  Mitochondrial DNA is not one of my stronger areas.  Dr. Behar told us that NCBI currently has 16,214 complete mitochondrial sequences and, of those, about 6,500 can be attributed to Family Tree DNA.  Kudos to citizen science.  That is outstanding!

Dr. Behar explained that we need a reference sequence to compare results and say in a concise way what is in the result.  The Cambridge Reference Sequence  has been used and was a landmark study but it was randomly chosen and creates a number of practical problems.  The reference is not necessarily “normal”.

There are tools available on mtDNA Community called FASTmtDNA and mtDNAable.  You can post your sequence in NCBI because that is an accepted host but sharing on mtDNA community does not upload to NCBI.  You can ask mtDNA Community to help you upload your results to NCBI by checking a checkbox.

A Highly Divergent Y Chromosome Lineage: Implications for Human Evolution and the Y Chromosome Tree

Dr. Michael Hammer of the University of Arizona

This presentation was a collaboration between Michael Hammer, Thomas Krahn, and Bonnie Schrack.  Dr. Hammer started out with a teaser, letting us know that they would be revealing a highly divergent Y chromosome lineage.  They are now able to sequence a whole plate with the same sequencing primer.  The 1,500 wells can all go on the sequencer and get a score for each of the samples.  The sequencing machine shoots out sequencing traces and each needs to be reviewed manually for differences from the reference sequence.

Bonnie Schrack

Bonnie talked about successes in the A project, which are greatly due to the tremendous financial supporters of the project.  Bonnie has been kind enough to share her powerpoint and presentations on her new website here.  It definitely explains things better than I ever could!

 

Thomas Krahn

Thomas Krahn told the story of a Friday when he and Astrid did two Walk the Y tests on parallel and ended up staying until 6am.  There were 52 derived markers where the Walk the Y customer matched old African samples from Mike Hammer.  These African samples will now be known as A00.

Mike Hammer explained that if they know the root and the time to most recent common ancestor (TMRCA) and where they’ve been sampled in the natural population, and there are derived lineages in other locations, then they can infer the stories of where ancestors lived in the past.  He says that the newly discovered A00 haplogroup is 67% older than anything previously known.  He estimates 338,000 years with a 98% confidence level.  About 500 years between the Cameroonian A00 sample and the South Carolina A00 sample is in line with the Atlantic  slave trade.  This discovery will surely bring about lots of new questions!

A Tale of Two Families – Findings from the FTDNA Surname Project VAN TUYL

Rory Van Tuyl

Retired engineer Rory Van Tuyl, project administrator for the Van Tuyl project, told how he was able to make some discoveries within his project.  Records-based phylogeny had identified three Van Tuyl branches.  Rory used Monte Carlo Simulation and the Walsh Infinite Alleles Theory to show that there is no constant mutation rate.  Rory used Y-Search and put in the ancestral haplotype and then one by one added changes from the ancestral to the Van Tuyl haplotype.  He found that the Van Tuyls share a specific set of seven alleles that comprise their family haplotype.  He said that using similarities rather than differences is a powerful analytical tool.  He was able to do the same for another set of Van Tuyls and, while they exhibited a similar family haplotype pattern, their pattern did not match that of Rory’s family.  Rory said that we should not try to estimate TMRCA from Y-STR data.

IT Update

Max Blankfeld introduces Elliott Greespan (seated)

The moment we’d all been waiting for!  Elliott Greenspan got up to speak and the Twitter feed went crazy.  Elliott did a quick year in review, talking about added features for General Fund, SNP maps, and third-party data.  FTDNA processed 2.33 petabytes of matching data in 2011 including 16.8 million segments.

Some things that Family Tree DNA plans to do include:

  • Allow uploads of Ancestry data once it is released, just as they have done with 23andMe.
  • Allow display of micro alleles on gap charts this year in footer soon
  • Add palindromic matching soon
  • For mtDNA, they will be upgrading all HVR1 to new roots
  • Upgrading to build 15 for all FMS.
  • New dashboard will be released after December.
  • Family Tree Viewer will be an upgrade to view your gedcom and will help in future things for phasing and will allow more data.
  • Population finder will have more populations and faster upgrades
  • Chromosomal painting
  • New Family Finder feature x matching and browsing with filters
  • Remove restriction on “in common with”
  • Ability to select 5 matches and push to Chromosome browser
  • Ability to filter by block – i.e. find all people with that specific block at least 4cm as long as they start or end in that block.
  • Phasing 2 versions – with one parent or two or go much further! Use aunts, uncles, cousins and match them against the Family Finder database to triangulate (So exciting!!!!)
  • FTDNA developers work group for customers with technical skills

I’m happy!  There was really so much great news from Elliott!

Question & Answer Session

Q: Are there any plans for Android?
A: FTDNA is a .net shop so it doesn’t work well.  If anyone has any idea for an apps, Elliott will definitely listen, whether it’s Android, Apple, etc.

Q: Will Gedcoms that have been uploaded to project participant kids be gone?
A: It will still use a combined Gedcom.  There will not be a data wipe so it will still be there but just not displayed.

Q: Can you remove the 5 limit on the chromosome browser?
A: It would be very hard to see colors.  As far as segment downloads, we can do it if you want.  (Loud applause!!!  The people want it!)

Q: Can you make it so that people can do “in common with” without a confirmed relation condition?
A:  Yes, it’s coming.  (I asked Elliott that last year.  Thank you, Elliott!  It’s worth waiting for.)

Q: If 4-5cM is the minimum to be taken seriously, then why is there a 7.7cM cutoff?
A: There are currently 1,300 matches that don’t have that large of a block.  It has to do with confidence that is based on supporting blocks.

Q: Is a set of APIs going to be available for data mining?
A: NO!!! Bennett is offended.  (Audience was pleased with Bennett for his answer.)

Q: Will there be advanced tools for monthly fees?
A: As long as they can, they not have any extra fees.  It is one fee for life.  However, if the person who asked would like, Max can certainly make special arrangements for that person.

Q: Will you upgrade Y-Search for all DYS markers?
A: Sorry, FTDNA does not have enough resources.

Q: What is FTDNAs source of ethnic data in Family Finder?
A: FTDNA purchased the application from Doug McDonald.  The next version will replace current information with lists of countries of known origin of individuals.  This information is in the FAQs.  Everyone should read them!

Q: What is the best web browser for FTDNA?
A: FTDNA is tested for all browsers.   Internally, they use Chrome.

Q: Can you do Y-DNA testing and a Walk the Y on an orangutan and bonobo?
A: Sure, if someone wants to provide the sample and sponsor it.

Q:What is the future of testing for FTDNA at the University of Arizona now that Geno 1.0 has ended?
A: FTDNA has a state of the art lab in Houston.  (Do they ever!!!)  The University of Arizona is still very connected via Mike Hammer.  97% of the testing now takes place in Houston.  Geno 2.0 will be run completely in Houston.

Q: Can you fix the email blacklist?
A: If emails bounced, there is a presumption of spamming.  If a company spams enough, they will get blocked by the service provider.  This is the reason for the blacklist.  If you have inadvertently ended up on it, call or email and it can easily be fixed.

Q: Will 23andMe data be functional in the new features of chromosome browser?
A: Yes.

Q: Will lower resolution tests like mt HVR1 and Y-12 be dropped?
A: FTDNA would like to offer just FMS, Y-37, 67, and 111 from the perspective of having the data but there are other considerations, a primary one being purchasing power.  Everyone wants the highest number of people in projects but cost would be a deterrent and drive some people out of the market.

To Dr. Behar
Q: Can a project admin see if a member’s FMS is in NCBI?
A: Dr. Behar hopes that an admin can see the number only if it is approved in a transparent manner such as on the website, not via private communication.  This is important for privacy.

Bennett
Q: What is the value of 67 and 111 marker tests?
A: Use the least amount of data you can to get the most.  “We try to make sure you don’t spend money that you have.”  He did not want to allow the 111 marker test to be purchased without first purchasing the lower marker tests but after much arm twisting, he is finally submitting.

Rory
Q: How did you derive the ancestral haplotypes?
A: Do a Google search and an FTDNA page will come up with the haplotypes.  List members then filter excel data, sort by subclade, separate by hand with 37 or 67 vertical columns.  He determined modal haplotype locus by locus.

Mike Hammer
Q: Do all chimps or gorillas have identical Y-DNA?  Is there diversity like there is in humans?
A: Yes, they all have different sequences.  They have looked at lots of chimps and they’re more polymorphic than humans are.  Occasionally, the same site might be polymorphic between chimps and humans.  It would be best to have 10 chimp Walk the Y samples and not use polymorphic results but not doing this would not ultimately damage the study results.

Q: Are there dates for the 2013 conference?
A: Bennett jokingly asked a staff member to go book November 2-3, 2013, but I sure wouldn’t bet the farm!

8th Annual Conference on Genetic Genealogy – Day 1

The 8th Annual Conference on Genetic Genealogy was held at the Sheraton Intercontinental North Houston on November 9-10, 2012.  Bennett Greenspan opened the conference with a welcome speech that included some new information for group administrators.  Usually Max does the opening, but his voice was not cooperative so Bennett had the honors this year.

Bennett Greenspan and Max Blankfeld

Bennett started by explaining the corporate structure of the company, Gene by Gene.  There are four branches: ancestry, health, research, and paternity.  The branch most people are familiar with is Family Tree DNA, the ancestry branch of Gene by Gene.  The health branch is called DNA Traits.  This branch does gene sequencing work for hospitals on a few continents and is a regulated branch.  DNA DTC  specializes in research and next generation sequencing including the entire exome at 80x coverage and the whole genome.  Finally, DNA Findings specializes in paternity testing and immigration.

Family Tree DNA has purchased 1.5 million vials since its inception.  The vials have a tethered strap on the lid, which was ultimately causing wrist strain for the lab employees and wasting valuable time and resources.  Family Tree DNA discovered a company in Europe with an automatic capper and decapper that will also dispense the proteinase K to the approximately 500 sample tubes processed per day.  The new tubes will have a red removable cap.  More automation comes to Family Tree DNA!

While waiting for Spencer Wells to join in live via Skype, Bennett answered a question about Geno 2.0.  Bennett indicated that National Geographic has decided that all people should buy Geno 2.0 through their catalog and get the nice kit that they have designed.  Bennett suspects (but cannot commit!) that by 2013, NGS will allow samples already in the lab to be tested under this particular test. This will be very beneficial for those whose testers have passed away.  There will not be any change in the order system during the Christmas rush.  Bennett will provide an update to administrators after January 1, 2013.  When the option becomes available, it will automatically appear in the upgrade screen.

Geno 2.0 Project Update

Dr. Spencer wells joined the conference live from Florence, Italy via Skype to provide a Genographic Project update.  There are three core components to the National Geographic Geno 2.0 project.  The field research division is the mission division.  They have collected approximately 75,000 indigenous samples from more than 1,000 populations and produced more than 36 publications.  For the public participation piece they partnered with FTDNA and approximately 470,000 kits have been sold all together in more than 130 countries.  Spencer talked about harnessing the power of the community to gain new scientific insights.  Everyone benefits when “citizen science” and the scientific community work together.  The Legacy Fund is the grant giving entity within the project that gives back to endangered cultures.  So far, $1.7 million in Legacy Grants have been given and they will continue their efforts to preserve culture and tradition.  They have also begun a new education initiative, Geno Threads, to connect kids from classrooms around the world.  If kids share lineage, the hope is that they will begin to care about other cultures.

The Genographic Project website has been completely redesigned.  There are 248 new mtDNA stories and 182 Y-DNA stories.  Information is based on approximately 1,000 peer reviewed publications and info from the genetic genealogy community.  (Thanks again to Citizen Science!)  When you log into the site, you can choose whether you would prefer to proceed anonymously or whether to register.  Your Story will appear in 3 sections if male and 2 if female.  These sections include “Maternal” for mtDNA, “Paternal” for Y-DNA, and “Who Am I?”, which covers autosomal DNA.  Heat maps are provided.  You are the center of your universe and this is the place where you can tell your own story and add it as a chapter to the human story.

Now for the important news… we will see GenoChip results in the next couple of weeks!

A couple of other tidbits…

  • German, Danish, Finnish, Bulgarian, Romanian, Tuscan, Spanish, and Greek are among the reference populations.  Spencer Wells said there is, “better coverage in Europe than anywhere else” and  ”Analyzing those separately is where we’re going in the next year.”
  • When asked about limit of resolution, Spencer Wells said, “Beyond 6 generations, frequencies are too low and it gets too muddy.”

Regulating Genetic Genealogy: Does It Make Sense?

Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist, gave a talk about some of the issues facing the Genetic Genealogy community.  Judy feels that the FDA probably doesn’t care about what we do with Family Finder or even 23andMe’s Relative Finder.  It is medical testing that they are concerned with.  Judy reviewed how contract law relates to genetic genealogy.  Judy pointed out that the Ancestry DNA consent agreement is voluntary and the way that they go about getting consent for “data analysis that may lead to and or include commercialization” is underhanded.  Project members should be cautioned that joining a project will expose some info about them to the group administrator.  Be cautious of information shared on the public results page of your projects.  It would be wise to get informed consent from project members, but the problem lies with documenting that informed consent.  Judy cited the Fox surname project as having a quality page.  You can find Judy’s blog post about her adventures in speaking about regulation to a group of genetic genealogists here.

There are plenty of people who like to say that the consumer genetic tests have no biological function and that police will never look in genealogy databases.  This is clearly not the case, since we do not know at this time what may be discovered in the future.  GINA 2008 (Genetics Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008) is not very broad, covering employment and health insurance only.  Judy reminded us of the case where genealogist Colleen Fitzpatrick got access to certain databases and claimed that a criminal was a Fuller.  In order to stop things like this, regulation would be required.  Regulation could also protect individuals from things like surreptitious testing.  At this point, it is not illegal in most places to take someone’s DNA.  Finally, she reminded us that when we make disclosures about ourselves, we should consider who else that impacts – perhaps siblings, children, and other family members who may share genetic information.

Times are rapidly changing and these are definitely things we should all keep in mind going forward.  I heard many rave reviews about Judy’s talk, which was relevant and important to the genetic genealogy community.  As always, the talk was very well presented.

 Getting More Out of DNA Testing with Family Finder Breakout

Cece Moore, Your Genetic Gengealogist, gave a great talk about a subject that is near and dear to her heart — and mine, too!  CeCe started with an overview of cellular structure and inheritance patterns and then got down to the good stuff,  making speadsheets to sort data.  (Uh oh, my nerd is showing.)  I don’t want to share the details of making the spreadsheets, because I’m hoping CeCe will do that herself.  During this breakout session, four people spent five minutes each sharing their own methods.  Jim Barlett suggested that we make a robust tree, write a standardized email, and email every match.  Then, use Gedmatch and upload your Gedcom.  Analyze place and time matches.  Karen Corbeil told of her success with autosomal DNA to find her family.  Rob Warthen, the husband of an adoptee and a computer guy, suggested downloading chromosome browser data to CSV files, as CeCe had talked about, and using the “in common with” feature to triangulate.  Rob developed DNA Gedcom, which I can’t wait to try out! He also suggested searching for adoption DNA tools at Yahoo groups for instructions.  Dr. Tim Janzen wrapped up the session with his very technical and advanced spreadsheet skills.  I cannot wait to get some time put some of this great information to work.

Irish Origenes

Dr. Tyrone Bowes of Irish Origenes came all the way from Ireland to tell us about his work, which uses reoccurring surname matches from Family Tree Y-DNA results to pinpoint geographical locations.  Dr. Bowes shared the steps he uses in the process.

  • Step 1 - Identify where the reoccurring surnames first appear.
  • Step 2 - Review surname distribution.  The reoccurring surnames should localize to a single area on the map.
  • Step 3 - Stick pins on the identified (reoccurring) surnames in the areas where they occur on the Irish Origenes surnames of Ireland map.  Step 4 - View the DNA results in a historical context!  He reminded us that it’s often valuable to track movements based on where they built castles.
  • Step 5 – Examine placenames

Dr. Bowes shared the website for gbnames Public Profiler, a great site that investigates the distribution of surnames in Great Britain.

Question & Answer Session

So many questions and so little time! I will share in bullet point style to get through as many of these as possible.

Q: Are Y-DNA and mtDNA results affected by chemo, drugs, radiation, etc?
A: There is no evidence of that, but someone should wait several weeks after a blood transfusion because a sample could be contaminated while scraping if blood is drawn.

Q: Does FTDNA have Y or M Y-DNA?
A: These are exotic and generally seen in the academic studies and areas of the world where it’s hard to get samples out.

Q: Can the preserved biopsy of deceased parents be used for FF testing?
A: Maybe.  There has been poor success if it’s preserved in a parafin block.  Blood samples with legal chain of custody in a purple top tube with preservative probably would have good success.

Q: Can we post non-FTDNA Y-DNA results in spreadsheets?
A: Yes, do a transfer for a nominal fee of $19 without upgrades.

Q: Is it appropriate and ethical to market mtDNA for genealogy rather than anthropology?
A: It is valid for genealogical purposes.  It can be used to find a shared female ancestor.  Max told the story of a Holocaust survivor with no family who  found distant cousins and her sense of loneliness went away with one test.

Q: Can you test Y-DNA on a World War II bayonet that has not been cleaned?
A: Thomas said if there is a blood, that could be a good source.  Dry blood is good.  Theoretically they probably can’t but he would have to see the sample and then decide.  Often it is not useful because of sun exposure, wet, etc.

Q: Can the Family Finder sample of a deceased father be used for Geno 2.0?
A: Family Tree DNA does not have the rights to sell the 2.0 chip directly at this time but after the first of the year, they will probably revisit that and it will majivally appear on an order upgrade page when it becomes available.  However, Bennett was very clear that THIS IS NOT A PROMISE!  It is not his decision.
Q: Will next gen sequencing pick up mtDNA insertions and deletions?
A: Yes.

Q: How will Family Finder report if a cousin is 1, 2, or 3 times removed?
A: Twice removed = 2 generation.

Q: Will presentations from the conference be available?
A: If authorized by the authors.

Q: How can females use Y-DNA results?
A: Look for a male and use your charm!  (Funny, Max!)

Q: What can we expect to learn from Geno 2.0 that is not already known?
A: mtDNA on the chip will be the closest thing to full mitochondrial sequence.  It wouldn’t show private mutations.  It’s better than any other means except FMS.  On the Y side, finding 100s of new SNPs.  For Niall of the Nine Hostages, no less than four new subsets.

Q: Did you exclude AT or CG mutations from Y or mt?
A: Elliott- We coded what it was supposed to be.  Build 37 should be out in a month or two.  We will add 3,000-4,000 new SNPs to the coparison tool  Nost all positions were known.  Those will be added and appear in files.

Q: If a wife’s uncle is deceased and there is a 10 year old sample, is a Family Finder test possible?
A: Yes, if the second vial is in storage.  There are 500,000 vials stored from past consumers.

Q: What happened to archives.org?  Are you next?
A: NO!

Q: What is your success in accepting transfers?
A:FTDNA has accepted many from DNA Heritage, thousands from Ancestry.com and 2/3 have upgraded to 25 or 37 markers, thousands from 23 and me.  When Ancestry.com figures out how to make data available, FTDNA expects thousands of transfers.

Q: If more data comes in, can we have a redo?
A: If more markers are added, they will automatically show up.  However, if it’s a new chip, it will be a new product.

Q: If someone did Y-DNA, later mtDNA, then Family Finder, are all vials used up?
A: For a while, 3 vials were shipped.  If there were 2 at the time you tested, there is probably no unused vial.  If 3, then there is probably 1 left.  This does not mean that there is no DNA.  The freezer stores 500,000 samples of DNA.  They simply take your sample out, take enough for the test, and put it back in the freezer.  You may send an email to inquire if your vial is in stock.  The extraction protocol was changed and a lot more DNA comes from a sample than in the past.

Q: When will you report ISOGG markers?
A: Each STR has a different mutation rate for each micro allele.  It depends on the marker.  The update will display those.  The update will include palindromic markers.

 

That about wraps up Day 1!  I will be reporting Day 2 soon and hopefully a post about an excellent adventure to the FTDNA lab will not be long forthcoming.  Please check back!

The Genealogy Event

Congratulations are in order for Bridget Bray of BBNY Group LLC, who did an outstanding job pulling everything together for The Genealogy Event in New York City on October 26th and 27th.  The Metropolitan Pavilion was a buzz of activity from just before noon on Friday, when a crowd lined up to enter, until 6pm on Saturday, when everything wrapped up.

The format of the event consisted of 30 minute power learning sessions, with 15 minute breaks in between.  I really liked this format.  I typically start to get fidgety after sitting in a presentation for a while.  With the condensed timeframe, presenters needed to choose their best and most important information, which is obviously beneficial to attendees.

One of the highlights of my visit was an appointment with Maureen Taylor, The Photo Detective.  Maureen looked at three pictures and confirmed some suspicions I had, as well as gave some great tips and insight.  She was able to pinpoint two of the photos to the 1870s and one to 1900.  I thought that the two pictures from the 1870s had been taken several years apart, as the woman looked much younger.  Maureen said that she had recently learned more about the artists who did these terrible, inaccurate renditions.  The tintype, which showed the woman looking older, was probably a better representation of the subject’s actual appearance.

I had the opportunity to speak with Kenny Freestone of Ancestry.com.  I was told by their representative that Kenny was a DNA specialist.  I asked Kenny about the availability of raw data.  He said the same thing we’ve been hearing.  Ancestry believes that our raw data belongs to us and they intend to release it in early 2013,  It is Ancestry’s hope to provide service such that we will no longer need our raw DNA to go to outside sources.  It appears that the intent is to become one-stop shopping for DNA needs.  I then questioned Kenny about the questionable population results.  He referred me to the paper “The People of the British Isles”.  He said that people in the British Isles have a lot more Scandinavian that anyone believes.  I am skeptical but I suppose time will tell.  Thirdly, I asked Kenny a question about possible persistence of certain segments and he said he  did not know.  I will admit that I asked the question simply to find out if he could answer it.  It appears that he is more of a product manager, as his card states, than a DNA expert.   He was quite pleasant and I told him that I’d hold him to his word that we will have our raw data very soon.

Almost all of the presenters did an outstanding job.  Among my favorite were:

  • Ron Arons, author of The Jews of Sing Sing, presented Finding Living People on the Internet on Friday and Putting the Flesh on the Bones on Saturday.  Ron was engaging, informative, and entertaining.   Ron says he’s not a stalker but he’s sure got first rate skills.  I love finding living relatives, so he’s a man after my heart.  Ron’s specialty is criminals and black sheep.
  • As expected,  Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist, gave a well-prepared, cohesive, and informative talk titled The ABCs of DNA.  The lecture was at a basic level, as I am sure was appropriate for the majority of the attendees.  I enjoyed watching Judy’s speaking style and learning important things about how to give a solid presentation.
  • Laura Prescott gave two wonderful talks.  There’s An App For That was chock full of useful apps for genealogists.  I did not sit in on her timelines talk because I saw it last weekend at the Connecticut Society of Genealogists seminar, but I know it was great because I have already tried several of her ideas and found them to be quite useful.
  • Bennett Greenspan of Family Tree DNA gave a talk titled Success Stories Using DNA.  Like Judy’s, the talk was at a basic level.  I went to the lecture both days, simply because I wanted to.

The best part of the weekend was that I got to spend it with my 4th cousin, Suzanne.  We met on a genealogy message board more than 8 years ago and have been collaborating ever since, but had never met in person despite living just two hours apart.  We are planning a trip to the New York Public Library together in the near future.

 

Bennett Greenspan, President and Founder of Family Tree DNA

Book Review – Finding Family: My Search for Roots and the Secrets in My DNA

I never thought that I would refer to a book about DNA as riveting, but the time has come.  Finding Family: My Search for Roots and the Secrets in My DNA by Richard Hill is a well-written tale of a man who spends many years searching for his biological family and eventually, through the use of DNA and genetic genealogy, is finally able to solve the mystery of his birth.

From the first page, the reader is drawn into the plight of a young man who discovers that he is not who he thought he was.  Over the course of more than forty-five years, Richard Hill searches to find the true identity of his parents.  Hill uses some conventional and some less well-known techniques for obtaining information.  There is much to be learned from both the successes and the problems that Richard encountered.

This gripping true story is an absolute page turner.  Whether you are an adoptee, a genealogist, or someone who likes a good story, Finding Family: My Search for Roots and the Secrets in My DNA is worth every minute.  Both those who are just starting their journey and those who have many years of experience will likely come away with a couple of new tricks up their sleeves.  Once you open the book, don’t plan to do anything else until you’ve reached the final page.

 

Description

Trade Paperback, 260 pages

Published August 2012

ISBN: 1475190832

ISBN 13: 9781475190830

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